In Krishnamurti Said It Is Only When The Mind Is Not Escaping In Any Form That It Is Possible To Be In Direct Communion With That Thing We Call Lonliness, The Alone, And To Have Communion With That Thing, There Must Be Affection, There Must Be Love On Love And Lonliness Is A Compelling Investigation Of Our Intimate Relationships With Ourselves, Others, And Society Krishnamurti Suggests That True Relationship Can Come Into Being Only When There Is Self Knowledge Of The Conditions Which Divide And Islolate Individuals And Groups Only By Renouncing The Self Can We Understand The Problem Of Lonliness, And Truly Love So when you ask what love is, you may be too frightened to see the answer It may mean complete upheaval it may break up the family you may discover that you do not love your wife or husband or children do you you may have to shatter the house you have built, you may never go back to the temple.But if you still want to find out, you will see that fear is not love, dependence is not love, jealousy is not love, possessiveness and domination are not love, responsibility and duty are not love, self pity is not love, the agony of not being loved is not love, love is not the opposite of hate any than humility is the opposite of vanity.So if you can eliminate all these, not by forcing them but by washing them away as the rain washes the dust of many days from a leaf, then perhaps you will come upon this strange flower which man always hungers after Jiddu Krishnamurti This one will always strike an inconvenient chord in my heart Painfully yet beautiful words. 191113 surprised i enjoyed this, as many questions are offered but mostly only inferred answers krishnamurti is here in conversation or lectures that are so friendly, so open, in offering his thoughts mostly, he seems to have focused in this collection, on love and loneliness, the first too often attached, corrupted, misunderstood, the latter all too prevalent in our human liveskrishnamurti suggests that we should answer ourselves, he is kind of an anti guru , an assertion of no dogma, no method, no certain beliefs in God or religion or ideology or even in any religious philosophical figures like him there is a profound, perhaps frustrating, insistence on the value of emotion, of passion, which is by understanding what love truly is, rather than rational thought, which by application so essentially chops up reality and enforces the loneliness, by separating, by analyzing, by setting up so many modes of thought which is only shared as method secular or religiousi think philosophical psychology this is the best description i can imagine on his way of being It s a compicated read at the beggining if you are merely reading the words, merely thinking that jiddu s words are magical, in my opinion as you start reading it it becomes obvious that you have to experience these words according to your view of the world Krishnamurti is not a teacher he is merely a mirror that tells you to look into yourself, in that image that you see reflected you will find, ideas, ideals, prejudices, fears, all of which most of us reject and just conform to the norm I believe he is right in saying we must look deeply into ourselves, and discover for ourselves how we can deal with loneliness, and look for this misterious thing called LOVE. Therevare books and there are books, this book is probably one of the most important I have read in my lifetime While it adresses the basic issue of every human life, our relationships with self and others it has been particularly relevant to me now Maybe that s because at an age over 60 we all tend in some way to review our lives well lived or otherwise This critical issues of alones versus lonliness, the attached love we all seem to run to in order to avoid that particular suffering and the places that dance will take us to has been the central core of my life, the sense of the black hole were absolute and totally dominant throughout my first 50 years The drive to fill that hole having led me into places where no one should ever go and to do things that noone should ever have to learn to live with was something I thought would never change It was the line of separation, that which made me different, unacceptable, indeed ireemdeemably a force for evil in my own eyes regardless of what the outside of nmy life may have looked like.It has cahnged as I have finally surrendered to the spiritual nature of my dilemma, I am, always have been and aleways will be powerless in the face of it, and there is nothing I can do to fix it It is only through my fumbling navigation of the very principles and understandings that Krishnamurti outlines here that has led me to a place where at least now I can see Starnagley, paradoxically but just as he indicates as I have made my way into the wrold of aloneness has my sense of separation from others me versus them has begun to bleed out of me The operative word is bleed for indeed through that process I have bled The gradual acceptance, not resignation to, of my own suffering has yileded the light to which I must constantly turn in the understanding that I am you and you are me, that my mind, my thought is the barrier and compassion is the answer for me.Now that has to be born every minute of every day and that always requires the surrender on mind, the self, particularly the wounded self that has driven me like a violent storm through my own life and the lives of those around me I was a terrible way to live and I inflicted in its throws great harm I am blessed by the genius and insight of this great man and his constantly compassionate committment to share his understanding with all of us.If nothing else this book ahd made the path a little clearer and confirmed the direction for me, counterintuitive and frightening though it so often seems A brilliant reminder that we do not need a guru, psychoanalyst or even a book to grow, we simply need self observation This book is a collection of various lectures and talks that Krishnamurti gave throughout his life focused on one topic that strikes fear in all loneliness and another that is completely misunderstood and taken for granted love There is no getting over the truth that we are all truly alone, no matter where we live, who we love, or who we surround ourselves with and rather than be deflated by this, we have the opportunity to really dive into our suffering, our egotism, and our selfish desires to see these attachments and move through them It is then and only then that we can truly find peace and love Recommended for those that wish to explore deeply their own feelings of loneliness and not recommended for any that hope to be told the answers. dans ce livre J Krishnamurti analyse toutes les formes et toutes les expressions de l amour de solitude et il vas expliquer que ce que nous appelons l amour est pas l amour, mais la possession, la concurrence l envie que la solitude est juste que ce que nous essayons de fuir faire de plus en plus de choses Il tente de d finir la relation vraie qui ne peut exister que par la connaissance de soi et les facteurs de division entre les individus et les groupes humains Face tout cela, pouvons nous d couvrir une mani re de vivre o nous n utiliserions pas l autre comme un moyen de fuir nos propres tourments, nos propres d sespoirs, notre propre solitudeCitation Sans amour, vous aurez beau faire courir apr s tous les dieux de la terre, prendre part toutes les activit s sociales, tenter de rem dier la pauvret , entrer en politique, crire des livres, crire des po mes vous ne serez qu un tre mort Sans amour, vos probl mes iront croissant et se multipliant l infini Mais avec l amour, quoi que vous fassiez, il n y a plus de risque, il n y a plus de conflit L amour, alors, est l essence de la vertu. Krishnamurti is a little Buddha even if he denies Buddhism A fascinating synthesis on love and loneliness Two emotions that are never understood by the movement of thought The ego image is always trying to rationalize and understand emotions when they are truly what we are Not the image or the symbol of self, but the actual spectra of emotions or a process of the universe Not the image that experiences No hallucination of the knower being different from the known We are pain and pleasure, love and loneliness Be with them, and be still in mind and they will reveal their nature. Profoundly anti intellectual, this collection of lectures and Socratic dialogues between Krishnamurti and his students attempts to peddle tautologies as profound ideas and perverts or less normative Buddhist thinking into anti materialist dogma The basic idea of the book is that human existence is loneliness because the fact of your existence necessarily leads to attachments, and attachments separate you from true love, which requires the annihilation of the ego Well, okay, Yoda, I get it life is a veil of suffering 50 friends means 50 woes, I get it The cheeseburger that can be eaten is not the true cheeseburger ALL RIGHT already If this were merely a collection of pseudo Eastern talks that trotted out standard Beatles Hare Krishna too much hash in the suburbs spirituality, that would be one thing, but the logic of the presentations is so circular and Krishnamurti so annoyingly didactic that it drives you to distraction According to this book, reading this book will not help you find connection or understand love because thinking AT ALL only causes you to be lonelier Thanks for the advice What shall I do with my freaking brain, then, J Krish Thinking is the only thing it s good for Why don t I just stop breathing, as well, since I m clearly way too attached to this oxygen May I have a glass of water, please Yes yes, I know, we re separated from the godhead, but may I please have a glass of water and read a Ziggy cartoon, or must I return to the void RIGHT NOW Come on, dude.Now I m going to go shave my head and chant gorilla gorilla gorilla at the airport until somebody feeds me a Cinnabon with triple frosting. A difficult message for some, however, I believe Mr Krishnamurti cuts right through the veil of human nature to get at the heart of what love isn t Therefore opening a pathway for us to discover what true love really is.
Jiddu Krishnamurti was born on 11 May 1895 in Madanapalle, a small town in south India He and his brother were adopted in their youth by Dr Annie Besant, then president of the Theosophical Society Dr Besant and others proclaimed that Krishnamurti was to be a world teacher whose coming the Theosophists had predicted To prepare the world for this coming, a world wide organization called the Order
- 155 pages
- On Love and Loneliness
- Jiddu Krishnamurti
- 09 February 2018 Jiddu Krishnamurti